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bull shit. go grow your poppy plants looser.
Hmm, I’ve never looked at it that way before.
I’ll be honest… I have mocked security guards for years but no more. You’re absolutely right, Dave. We should pimp a ‘National Be Nice to a Security Guard Day.’
Mall cop may have roots in something called the Mall Ninja (gun forum thing), look up Gecko45 and you might find more. But their training is low, low requirements and stuff. Some corps are different and screen better and some hire LEOs. Some corps don’t allow their guards to be armed with firearms. That is why I call it false security.
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Good insight. I never thought about it before either. You’re absolutely right. Their ‘powers’ are subdued because of the monopoly of force the government security has.
good point.
Wow. You complain about people censoring you while you blab on about how sweet and wonderful you are. Pathetic.
More good points. Thanks :)
Worked security for two years. Sucked.
“Some corps don’t allow their guards to be armed with firearms. That is why I call it false security.”
The British police force didn’t have any firearms for a long time and was quite effective.
I always have to smile when I see a friendly officer. But unfortunately it seems to make them nervous.
Our mall doesn’t have it’s own security, it’s patrolled by police.
My theory is that with cops, we can (pretend to) be assured of a certain level of training that they have, like, to deal with people or threats, use their gun wisely etc.. I’ll never count on a security guard to perform just-as-good as a cop in case of a real threat.
It was effective until criminals figured out a way to start smuggling guns into the country, making the criminals more armed than the cops.
Are privately-hired security guards protected by civil (and criminal) immunity like “publicly-hired” security guards? I don’t think so. Therefore, the pubic cops have more protection and hence, vastly more power and discretion.
This is true, but the method can work, it’s just the incompetency of the police that prevents it working nowadays. But alas…
The idea is that security guards did not ought to serve and protect and be impartial as cops do, they are rather seen as those who just make a living and serve to the dollar and corporations rather than society.
Security Guards also don’t have the limited liability that police do. That means they HAVE to be nicer in order to not get their butts sued into poverty.
Sadly, the attitude is that they are “less” than police. Maybe, just maybe, that perception and attitude is what we need to change.
The most effective period of the Bobbie (unarmed police) was when Britain had no gun prohibition at all.
Armed citizens backed up the police when needed.
Keep in mind, disarmed Britain is a recent thing. It’s not traditional at all.
What prevents private people from getting training?
Most of what I hear from people who deal with police is that most of them can’t shoot worth shit.
With 5 times the number of “innocent” people shot by police than by responding citizens, I think those reports may be accurate.
First, I wrote (pretend to).
Secondly, while almost anybody is able to freely train, I suppose, that people who aim at minimum-wage jobs, did less training than I did. Cops aim just a bit higher than just minimum wage. They aim authority too.
In a voluntary society, “cops” would be those who want to do the job for all the good reasons, because it wouldn’t have that authority rush.
Have you read “The Probability Broach”? bigheadpress.c om/tpbtgn
Good use of private security/enforcement in that story, and lots of fun too.
Oh, sorry, re-reading I see it is WE who “(pretend to)”, not the cops. That makes sense.
Use their gun wisely? You mean like the officer involved in the BART shooting?
AGREE with everything hear! in my mall cops job in the uk we are always first to a scene yet the police get the glory and higher wage just to turn up and cart our arrests away!
Good point, another one people miss alot is that security, unlike police, can use reasonable force to remove someone or have the police remove someone from the property as they work for the property, even when no laws have to be violated, but perhaps only property rules have been violated, regardless of any right someone may think they have, when the owner, or their designee ( security ) says they must go, there are no grounds for arguement, what belongs to another is not yours.